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« on: March 19, 2007, 04:11:42 16:11 »

Can someone upload the latest version please
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« Reply #1 on: March 19, 2007, 04:55:55 16:55 »

what are your requests for? to increase your postmeter? if somebody has the newest version and if the version is worth to it will be posted.
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« Reply #2 on: March 19, 2007, 10:22:43 22:22 »

I also request that version & I also wonder why people reply to topics without any useful information? To increase their postmeter perhaps?

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« Reply #3 on: March 20, 2007, 02:02:28 02:02 »

what are your requests for? to increase your postmeter? if somebody has the newest version and if the version is worth to it will be posted.

it bothers to you? You work for CCS or gives you envies that if we know to use it and your no?
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« Reply #4 on: March 21, 2007, 04:40:47 16:40 »

Hi!
Since CCs is flooding the market with a neverending stream of releases, it would be nice if You all took the time to find out what really is new or inventive with each release. Myself I compare the examples folder(cut, paste and watch!). We all know how to arrange and compile our code. A new GUI doesn't make a summer. The fact that new releases just try to fix bugs in the predecessors doesn't make it a good compiler...
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« Reply #5 on: March 22, 2007, 12:40:12 00:40 »

I mainly wait for the linker to function in fact. But sure I'll try to get away with that compiler for pic18 & above if I find an alternative because of the library management of CCS!

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« Reply #6 on: March 22, 2007, 07:06:49 19:06 »

Sincerely, The price difference between 18Fxx series and 16Fxx series is negligible, and in some cases 18Fxx series are cheaper than 16Fxxx... and for every 16Fxx we can have an equivalent in 18Fxx with 3 or 4 more flash, more memory, more peripherals, autoflash feature...
and for the 18Fxx series microchip give the Student version of its very nice compiler with less bug than CCS. Why stick with 16Fxx series? Microchip compiler even in commercial version is not so expensive (compares to CCS PCHW) ... and for very little PICs like 10Fxx and 12Fxx sincerly there is practically no compiler that is really usable for this low end series, so why stick with the ugly CCS compiler?
PIC18 compiler from microchip is free (in student edition), the optimisation is disabled after 60 days, but can be reactivated by simply uninstalling it and reinstalling it (and go for 60 other days)... it has good libraries (LCD, I2C and SPI in soft and hardware, ...), very good integration in MPLab and it's simulator ... very good lib handling (linker)...
I think that instead of losing time to wait for every version of CCS, the best is spend more time to learn C18 Compiler from Microchip, and even to port the drivers from CCS to C18 from Microchip. It can be a better time investment...
And I finally think that the best we can do in this forum, instead of stoling compilers, is to launch a new open source project based on C18 in order to create every kind of libs to make C18 easy to use for begginers. It will be a very profitable experience.

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PS. I do not work for any compiler company. It's just my own opinion.

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« Reply #7 on: March 22, 2007, 07:28:42 19:28 »

That's a very pertinent opinion.
People can also find links to download HiTech's compilers, that are also very good tool for developing embedded software.
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« Reply #8 on: March 22, 2007, 09:02:05 21:02 »

I also like to go for the C18 compiler but the benchmarks I see on the net makes me believe that C18 generates lots of code comparing to others and if someone has a good comparision between C18 & other compilers please post the link! IAR is not an option for me because they make compilers for nearly every MCU so I think they specialize in non of them. Also their compilers doesn't support inline assembly. And also Hi-Tech is not an option for me. It can be a good compiler but it doesn't have any MCU specific libraries. In the end I don't need the ANSI standart when coding timing routines, I need the timing routines themselves!
Anyway I really want to believe that C18 is a good compiler but I need evidence! Then I can look ahead the buggy CCS.

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« Reply #9 on: March 22, 2007, 09:39:16 21:39 »


Sincerely, The price difference between 18Fxx series and 16Fxx series is negligible, and in some cases 18Fxx series are cheaper than 16Fxxx... and for every 16Fxx we can have an equivalent in 18Fxx with 3 or 4 more flash, more memory, more peripherals, autoflash feature...
and for the 18Fxx series microchip give the Student version of its very nice compiler with less bug than CCS. Why stick with 16Fxx series? Microchip compiler even in commercial version is not so expensive (compares to CCS PCHW) ... and for very little PICs like 10Fxx and 12Fxx sincerly there is practically no compiler that is really usable for this low end series, so why stick with the ugly CCS compiler?


I quote totally. Except for small 16F like 88 or 628, I've completely switched to 18F. I've used C18 since a couple of year and I found it good and complete. I use also MikroC and MikroBasic for prototyping, and they are also good. CCS ver.3 was very good, but not much experience on ver 4. I used CCS only in MPLAB environment becouse I can't stand CCS editor.

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« Reply #10 on: March 22, 2007, 09:58:12 21:58 »

For 18 pin version, 16F84 and 16F62x I switched to 18F1320 ... better with all the advantages I mentioned... and I buy them from Microchip Direct web site at only 2.16Euro for the LF version ... so I do never get back to the ugly 16Fxx series.
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« Reply #11 on: March 24, 2007, 07:20:37 19:20 »

O guys,

but... what u tell me about Orphaned (un-used) Functions? The CCS remove this functions, do C18 it too?

If a make a library with a lot of functions an put it in my program, and a use in my program only one those functions, will be the othes functions in pic memory too?

How C18 work with it?

Sorry about my English.
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« Reply #12 on: March 25, 2007, 09:46:16 09:46 »

PIC18 linker handles this functionnality. This is why the librarian is useful. In PIC18 C you can create specialised libraries, compile them and use them when you want. The linker will remove all unused functions from your final Hex. And it's the lack of linker and BUGS in CCS that let me ingnore its existance.

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« Reply #13 on: March 25, 2007, 11:52:01 11:52 »

While this topic is going off topic, my two cents.
In prototype or small runs, the cost of an item is not a big deal, thus 18F's are great.
But when your making 10,000 units, 50 cents per unit, amounts to alot of money.
Im sure most of you wont be making even 1/10th of that many units, but its a point as to why not everyone will use/needs to use the 18F's. (and off course if your using CCS commercially, you should buy it)
I love the USB stuff in the 18F's
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« Reply #14 on: March 25, 2007, 12:24:30 12:24 »

While this topic is going off topic, my two cents.
In prototype or small runs, the cost of an item is not a big deal, thus 18F's are great.
But when your making 10,000 units, 50 cents per unit, amounts to alot of money.
Im sure most of you wont be making even 1/10th of that many units, but its a point as to why not everyone will use/needs to use the 18F's. (and off course if your using CCS commercially, you should buy it)
I love the USB stuff in the 18F's

Sorry but most of the PIC18 parts are cheaper than 16Fxx series equivalent because of the new fabrication processes used by Microchip. The only exception is maybe the 16F88 and the 16F57 (that replaces the 16C57 -- 12 bits core), or the new low end 10Fxx series that have no equivalent but for witch no compiler is really useful.
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« Reply #15 on: March 25, 2007, 05:21:53 17:21 »

Whether the PIC18 parts are cheaps or not what of the funny news this thread only has is the request in itself: PCWH 4.030 ?! and where the heck this version did come from Huh? Does the original poster know something we don't ?
The link http://www.ccsinfo.com/devices.php?page=versioninfo tags the 4.025 as the current version, so it's exactly this one that we would like to see on here !     
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« Reply #16 on: March 25, 2007, 07:15:39 19:15 »

Can someone upload the latest version please
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« Reply #17 on: March 25, 2007, 11:54:41 23:54 »

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The link http://www.ccsinfo.com/devices.php?page=versioninfo tags the 4.025 as the current version, so it's exactly this one that we would like to see on here !

The information at this link is faulty. They probably screwed up the version page. The lastest version was 4.030 by a couple of days ago and it is used by users of CCS. Check their forum in case you're not sure!

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« Reply #18 on: March 26, 2007, 04:19:09 16:19 »

Can someone upload the latest version please
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« Reply #19 on: March 26, 2007, 11:29:45 23:29 »

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Can someone upload the latest version please.

You went to every recent thread about the CCS compiler and posted this message. Are you 8 years old or something? Give it a rest, eh?
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« Reply #20 on: March 27, 2007, 02:21:50 14:21 »

4.024  A problem with the floating point unary minus operator on some chips is now fixed
 4.024  The IDE now includes an option to use clasic menus instead of the new ribbons
 4.025  Updates made for the newest chips
 4.026  A code optimization bug has been fixed
 4.026  Problems with reading and writting to flash on some parts is fixed
 4.026  Experimental code completion added to the IDE (defaults to off for now)
 4.027  Removed an IDE query after compilation concerning file reloads
 4.028  A run time error in CCSC for some users is fixed
 4.029  An optimization problem dealing with bit arrays is fixed
 4.029  Some issues with write_program_memory erasing too much or not enough are fixed
 4.029  Updates made for the newest chips
 4.030  Some IDE editor problems have been fixed
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« Reply #21 on: March 28, 2007, 02:44:34 14:44 »

Are you going to beg every two weeks for the rest of the year when a new version of CCS is released?



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« Reply #22 on: March 28, 2007, 02:50:10 14:50 »

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« Reply #23 on: March 28, 2007, 03:21:40 15:21 »

Are you going to beg every two weeks for the rest of the year when a new version of CCS is released?




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« Reply #24 on: March 28, 2007, 05:13:15 17:13 »

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