picall frimware

[arash]

Hi guys.Does anyone got picall frimware.

[vsmvdd]

look for 3rd party picall designs {uses cmos and tll to get accurate voltages}
 
they are free designs and there is no need of the companies voltage control firmware
 
why bother with a programmer
 
ANY pic can be programmed from three wires
 
unless you plan to fly your pic to the moon
or use it in very crytical situations
 
why bother with low voltage programming
 
 
 
http://www.sonsivri.com/forum/showthread.php?t=988
 
 
look at this thread
most user agree this method works fine for development
 
if you seriously need a production grade programmer
 
then there are far better programmers and far far cheeper
 
like the chinese TOP series look for TOP 2005 2004 2048usb etc
 
http://members.shaw.ca/topprogrammer/
 
cost about 50 - 200 euros complete depending what level you need and can justify
 
tip is to pay in u/s dollers
 
 
http://members.shaw.ca/topprogrammer/moreTop2048SupportedList.htm
 
makes a picall look lame ?? yes...!

[robban]

The reasons for using a debugger are many. When debugging a code You can of course use a stimulus file, but it doesn't work when You have sensors connected to the PIC. The stimulus file is a poor companion when it comes to emulate the sensor. Furthermore, when You have a lot of critical numerical values in a function, how do You determine which one's right?.
It takes a certain amount of time to properly read and understand f.ex. MPLAB:s virtual SIM, but once You get the hang of it, it´s a good help. You can of course make Your own debugger by letting the second channel of a MX232(ACPE) act as a debug channel, and then watch Your own variables at various points.
A good debugger is worth it's weight in gold. I attach an example using HI-TECH C and a VB6 terminal example

[arash]

I never forget that vsmvdd

[vsmvdd]

TOP support ICD and ICP
 
 
for debug of code you can use the cheep picsimulator ide
 
works very well {better than labcenters simulators and no clutter...}
performs static init so can be used for security checking and reinit to run state
 
you can use any language set to output the hex to the project directory
 
this software will progress so its worth supporting
one off fee no constant bleeding your pocket
and beets the shit out of mplabs free simulation tools
 
most important
DONT use cracked compilers
youll just drive yourself mad  if i built a software compiler
i would protect it in diverse ways
anything from indelible watermarks  to indentify cheets
 
 
to lets get the lamer bummers  like  broken interupt  and also missleading bug repaired reports to confuse the crackers one time it compiles next time not
to confuse debug attempts many things i can think of.....  to piss you off
 
use  keys  and licence and legal where you can  cracks  to test to see if its cool
 
hitec compiler is really bad  at this  
and  i never liked there ide
but each to there own  !!!  
 
basic works better and faster and produces smaller files than c compilers mostly
 
 
 
also dont forget to try out SDCC  its free and  there is ide support
 
just a little harder to setup
 
but if you use linux  or mac  atari etc  its cool  and works  far better
again is  fully ansi c  complient over and above  ccs or hitec  and  i think free is always better than pay or pray

[wacksbaby]

You can also try Hi-Lo Systems programmers.. they program almost all programmable chips but the tradeoff is that it cost a lot

look for 3rd party picall designs {uses cmos and tll to get accurate voltages}
 
they are free designs and there is no need of the companies voltage control firmware
 
why bother with a programmer
 
ANY pic can be programmed from three wires
 
unless you plan to fly your pic to the moon
or use it in very crytical situations
 
why bother with low voltage programming
 
 
 
http://www.sonsivri.com/forum/showthread.php?t=988
 
 
look at this thread
most user agree this method works fine for development
 
if you seriously need a production grade programmer
 
then there are far better programmers and far far cheeper
 
like the chinese TOP series look for TOP 2005 2004 2048usb etc
 
http://members.shaw.ca/topprogrammer/
 
cost about 50 - 200 euros complete depending what level you need and can justify
 
tip is to pay in u/s dollers
 
 
http://members.shaw.ca/topprogrammer/moreTop2048SupportedList.htm
 
makes a picall look lame ?? yes...!