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« on: August 10, 2010, 11:24:06 11:24 » |
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Great sonsivri
I didn't well with software manipulation.
Looking schematic multivibrator with NE555(cause wide rage VCC). When I press switch then created squarewave or rectagle waveform.
at attachment
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« Reply #1 on: August 10, 2010, 02:15:13 14:15 » |
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The answers to this are all readily available here: GOOGLE: 555
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« Reply #2 on: August 11, 2010, 03:46:24 03:46 » |
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hi this is small program for 555 multivibrators ( with schematic)
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« Reply #3 on: August 11, 2010, 04:42:34 04:42 » |
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Where's the switch that didn't trespass the operation of that multivibrator?
The switch is only on time(or triggered) and produce the squarewave output. Not on/off the IC's.
Sorry I forgot where my book that I keeped at rack for that info.
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« Reply #4 on: August 11, 2010, 10:47:11 10:47 » |
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Three easy choices:
1) Switch can break the connection between pin 3 of the 555 and the MCU
2) Switch can pull pin 2 of the 555 to ground to stop its oscillation.
3) Switch can remove power from the 555.
Put a resistor of perhaps 1K between the 555 and MCU if their power supply voltages differ, and a diode from MCU pin to MCU's VCC so the input of the MCU is not over-voltage.
I personally prefer solving the problem with software on the MCU and eliminating the 555 entirely.
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« Reply #5 on: August 11, 2010, 01:23:15 13:23 » |
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Here you will find every kind of circuit
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« Reply #6 on: August 11, 2010, 01:34:37 13:34 » |
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Three easy choices:
1) Switch can break the connection between pin 3 of the 555 and the MCU
2) Switch can pull pin 2 of the 555 to ground to stop its oscillation.
3) Switch can remove power from the 555.
Also the 555 has a reset pin, which could be used for control.
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« Reply #7 on: August 12, 2010, 03:54:33 03:54 » |
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Hai all Sorry for not clear explanation... Here's the info. at 1...nothing is pressed..no pulse at 2...switch A pressed then produce pulse. at 3..switch B pressed then no pulse basically from Oldvan suggest..thank's Oldvan 2) Switch can pull pin 2 of the 555 to ground to stop its oscillation. Where's I place switch A..do I need more components? Thank you Jeckson
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« Reply #8 on: August 12, 2010, 01:15:53 13:15 » |
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Sorry
I added additional information..the switch A and B is momentary.
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« Reply #9 on: August 12, 2010, 01:49:44 13:49 » |
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I take it switch A feeds supply to 555. If I get what you want to do, you only need 1 & 2 option 3 is same as 1 also what about level of voltage at output of 555 ?
I would try and post what you want to do with a bit more detail. Also if your feeding a micro controller what about the voltage level.
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« Reply #10 on: August 13, 2010, 08:51:10 08:51 » |
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I take it switch A feeds supply to 555.
I'm thinking same..but the SWICTH A is momentary or pulse or trigger... THank you Jeckson
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« Reply #11 on: August 14, 2010, 02:38:48 02:38 » |
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if you want the switch as a momentary, use a SCR for power input, Switch A is to be a NO, placed in the Gate, and switch B is to be a NC, to cut out the supply to SCR.
You may want to add some load to increase the SCR current so it will latch.
Otherwise, use another 555 for RS switching
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« Reply #12 on: August 14, 2010, 02:52:04 02:52 » |
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I will tried in someways..download_crux could you post another 555-Timer.rar
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« Reply #13 on: August 16, 2010, 10:36:37 10:36 » |
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download_crux could you post another 555-Timer.rar
The cann't decompress...please upload again. I tried to made the minimum parts with multivibrator. Jeckson
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« Reply #14 on: August 16, 2010, 11:17:00 11:17 » |
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« Reply #15 on: August 16, 2010, 06:55:42 18:55 » |
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What you are asking for is extremely basic...if you don't start doing your own research and gain an understanding of the simple things you will be hopelessly lost for the more complex. That said, if you insist on being spoonfed: http://www.utm.edu/staff/leeb/3b3.htm
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« Reply #16 on: August 18, 2010, 08:56:52 08:56 » |
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What you are asking for is extremely basic...if you don't start doing your own research and gain an understanding of the simple things you will be hopelessly lost for the more complex.
Looking for minimum parts.... Not like that at the website of http://www.utm.edu/staff/leeb/3b3.htmShown below is the pinout for the 555 timer and how it can be configured to operate as a monostable multivibrator. This one-shot is non-retrigerable.Thank's Jeckson
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« Reply #17 on: August 18, 2010, 09:12:22 09:12 » |
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Looking for minimum parts....
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In that case, use an 8 pin PIC
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« Reply #18 on: August 18, 2010, 10:26:08 10:26 » |
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or a 6 pin pic 10F
Jeckson, i fell that you are a bit out of your depth here. I am sure for a small fee someone would be glad to design anything and everything for you.
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« Reply #19 on: August 18, 2010, 11:30:09 11:30 » |
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The device he is looking for is the yet to be defined, that is of couse the very rare "maybe gate", not to be confused with fuzzy logic. I have the feeling this is a school project. from the first post it is hard to see what his aim of the project is. Options are: 1. Input to port with 3 states: hi, low, or clock (Not said what Frequencey is needed) 2. clock for MCU (but no Frequencey is asked for, I don't think this is what he is asking for as most MCU have internal clocks or have xtal) 3. if you have to guess as to what the poster is needing, then maybe right answers should not be given, untill you have a valid question to be answered.
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« Reply #20 on: August 18, 2010, 12:55:15 12:55 » |
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Hai PICkit2,Parman and solution I apologize that there's missunderstand about it.The schematics was solved but I tried minimum parts. Not only for MCU but also for simple FM transmitter.. at http://pacarita1us.wordpress.com maybe little bit explain. Yes..seems that high school project.That's for my poor friend who's lived at slump region at my town who's always fishing for everyday meals. Perhaps someone order and he built that. Regards Jeckson
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« Reply #21 on: August 18, 2010, 03:36:18 15:36 » |
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I thought I'd located a hex maybe gate, But it turned out to be a hex BABY gate. OK, I think I understand now. Seriously, minimum parts and minimum size could be a PIC10F202 in a SOT-23-6 package. Would not eat as much power as a 555 and can program to meet your needs.
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« Reply #22 on: August 18, 2010, 07:49:04 19:49 » |
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oldvan: Looks like you have two pretty big noise sources inside that hex gate of yours. You'll also get crappy outputs from them.
Nothing a couple of one-shots won't fix, though
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« Reply #23 on: August 18, 2010, 07:50:27 19:50 » |
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Simple things sometimes intriguing, and I understand the difficulties on sourcing "sophisticated" components in his place (Makassar?) So here is my trial with the objective are minimum cost and easy to find components, at least it works on Proteus. Just don't push the two buttons at the same time - that's your home work . -ichan
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« Reply #24 on: August 18, 2010, 09:00:24 21:00 » |
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I think you're going to want a limiting resistor on that two button path Ichan ...in case someone decides to run it off a car battery (you never know what they may sub for a "battery" in backwoods places). His spec was minimum component count, not cost, so I'm not sure how this ckt beats the 6 pin PIC, or even Oldvan's hex gate idea (unless Jeckson can't live with having two pulses there.... ).
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« Reply #25 on: August 19, 2010, 12:05:50 00:05 » |
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6 pin pics are from 30¢ ... THIRTY CENTS each and on top of that you need a 100n decoupling cap which is about 1¢ and you got a working circuit to match umpteen components of the LM555 circuit.
You cannot beat the minimum component count of TWO with total outlay of 31¢ !!!
Where is this cock and bull story about fishing and FM transmitter? Are you planning to dance with the fish? talk them to death? new remote controlled suicidal fish terrorist?
Why is it always whenever payments are mentioned, the problem miraculously solved?
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« Reply #26 on: August 19, 2010, 04:44:02 04:44 » |
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You cannot beat the minimum component count of TWO with total outlay of 31¢ !!!
Absolutely agree, but I guess for Jeckson he will need to add another $60 for shipping cost. -ichan
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« Reply #27 on: August 19, 2010, 09:28:50 09:28 » |
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Seriously, minimum parts and minimum size could be a PIC10F202 in a SOT-23-6 package. Would not eat as much power as a 555 and can program to meet your needs.
6 pin pics are from 30¢ ... THIRTY CENTS each and on top of that you need a 100n decoupling cap which is about 1¢
Hmmm...0.3 US??,0.30.3 EU? GBP? 0.3 EU? Regards. Jeckson
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« Reply #28 on: August 19, 2010, 10:11:33 10:11 » |
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Where is this cock and bull story about fishing and FM transmitter? Are you planning to dance with the fish? talk them to death? new remote controlled suicidal fish terrorist?
Why is it always whenever payments are mentioned, the problem miraculously solved?
Reason why the transmiter is a lot of fisher men use 3 lines for example, when fishing for carp. Microchip shipping costs are about $60, any size of order, even samples are charged now. but again if use farnell.com, or rs.com once you spend (£20 or the same in local currencey it is free) I remember opening a non-working bite sounder a long time ago,(20 years or more) and main ic was a 4093, buzzer and a few R's & C's. I used the ciruit in a few alarm systems I built, one 4093 and two zone alarm and 20mins bell cut-off.
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« Reply #29 on: August 21, 2010, 12:27:22 12:27 » |
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Simple things sometimes intriguing, and I understand the difficulties on sourcing "sophisticated" components in his place (Makassar?)
So here is my trial with the objective are minimum cost and easy to find components, at least it works on Proteus. Just don't push the two buttons at the same time - that's your home work
Great..Ichan. Did Ichan already simulated that? seems with numbers of transient voltage and simulation stopped. When I added low resistance load..It work's at numbers of time. I solved..perhaps will sent at direct message? Reason why the transmiter is a lot of fisher men use 3 lines for example, when fishing for carp. Microchip shipping costs are about $60, any size of order, even samples are charged now. but again if use farnell.com, or rs.com once you spend (£20 or the same in local currencey it is free)
made me open minded.Added some option with PIC10F202 added 1 more option and also sent different tone when switch EAT trigger. Thank you Jeckson
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« Reply #30 on: August 22, 2010, 06:45:35 18:45 » |
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I did the simulation but not the real hardware, you better try it on real then report what you get . The circuit held it's on state by using output pulse stream of 555, if instability experienced then adding one more transistor will solve it. Like others said, small micros will be "better". If you really in Makassar - South Sulawesi as I though then I will send you 2 PIC12F675 SOIC8 for free, just PM me your address. -ichan
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« Reply #31 on: August 23, 2010, 11:21:46 11:21 » |
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Like others said, small micros will be "better". If you really in Makassar - South Sulawesi as I though then I will send you 2 PIC12F675 SOIC8 for free, just PM me your address.
Thank's for offer but......... How's I paid your kindness The problem solved with NE555,NE567,etc.. let's said version 1.The project not belongs to me anymore. Thank's Jeckson
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