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« on: May 26, 2021, 02:10:33 02:10 »

Hi,

Anyone tried both, can you just compare the quality of the PCBs? Which is better?

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« Reply #1 on: May 26, 2021, 03:36:55 03:36 »

I use JLC regularly.  I have used PCBWAY sometime in the past, but prefer JLC. I also like ALLPCB since they didn't charge me extra for yellow soldermask with black silkscreen. Everybody else wanted to charge a premium for that specific combination.

I can't complain about JLC's work. Quality has always been good. Haven't used PCBWAY for several years.
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« Reply #2 on: May 26, 2021, 07:00:58 07:00 »

I made pcbway and jlpcb do the same thing, on the double faces I doubt that they were made by the same hand,
the position of the symbol they put was in the exact same position
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« Reply #3 on: May 26, 2021, 08:21:36 08:21 »

You can compare their capabilities. I have been using JCL for 4 years. Their prices are good. I am satisfied with their quality.

https://jlcpcb.com/capabilities/Capabilities
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« Reply #4 on: May 26, 2021, 09:31:32 09:31 »

JLC have a good quality. I think JLC PCB's are good value for money.
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« Reply #5 on: May 26, 2021, 10:34:23 10:34 »

The quality offered by JLCPCB and PCBWAY is practically identical, some complementary services offered and some rates change.
Personally i prefer JLCPCB because it has lower shipping prices with DHL than PCBWAY and on the order of a single PCB, 5 pieces, i can stay under the ceiling of 22 E, for the European rules under this threshold no VAT and no duty is paid, which involves a significant saving on the final cost.
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« Reply #6 on: May 26, 2021, 12:16:25 12:16 »

I tried to make boards in PCBWAY, but settled on JLCPCB, they make boards with assembly much cheaper, they easily go to contact to solve problems, listen to wishes. In my libraries in Altium, I bind the components to their JLCPCB Part #, at the end of the project I immediately get a ready-made BOM. It is convenient to visualize the arrangement of components on a printed circuit board and check the orientation of the components. If it is urgent to make, then I received printed circuit boards with assembly in my hands (Ukraine), 5 days after payment.

Now I was negotiating with them so that they add LEDs to the assembly, they promised to think about it.

NS107S/HD107S     
https://www.addressableledstrip.com/uploads/20200605/f302333fd25704eeb54398b6e17b4dca.pdf

NS107S-2020/HD107S-2020
https://www.addressableledstrip.com/uploads/20200605/ce9d2a12224d7f3c2a83cdc4e54d2826.pdf

NS108-5050-16bit/HD108-5050-16bit
https://www.addressableledstrip.com/uploads/20200605/3cc6b3c4b37d1544ed0c4a320947d9d5.pdf

NS108-2020/HD108-2020
https://www.addressableledstrip.com/uploads/20200605/4f52cfe131c621396b39cc84dd83422f.pdf
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« Reply #7 on: May 26, 2021, 03:39:06 15:39 »

I think that Pcbway is alot more expensive than Jlcpcb.
I ordered boards for LCR Meter from elector 2020-11, from Jlcpcb i paid 65euro for 3 different boards one is 4 layaer (main pcb), one stencil for the main pcb and shipping to the Netherlands.
Pcbway wants 114 euro only for one (the main) pcb 4 layer board 99.9 x 202mm, with shipping.

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« Reply #8 on: May 26, 2021, 07:52:34 19:52 »

JLPCB is much cheaper than PCBWAY. The quality is the same.
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« Reply #9 on: May 26, 2021, 08:39:19 20:39 »

JLCPCB Comes out on top!  Cheesy
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« Reply #10 on: May 26, 2021, 08:46:14 20:46 »

yes, apparently most people are into JLCPCB Smiley
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« Reply #11 on: May 26, 2021, 09:39:20 21:39 »

yes, apparently most people are into JLCPCB Smiley

I've done both but I would say PCBWay has a a slightly better quality. I would also say that I think the support at PCBWay is much better. Anyhow, I consider them both comparable for overall performance and agree that PCBWay is in general, a bit more expensive. They both are great and low cost so in my book so you cant go wrong with either one. Send your design to both.
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« Reply #12 on: May 27, 2021, 04:51:29 04:51 »

I very rarely make just a printed circuit board, mainly a printed circuit board and an assembly at the same time, and when I start checking and comparing the cost of manufacturing, I have no doubts where to send the order.
Even with the smallest batch of printed circuit boards for a prototype, the difference is immediately $ 50-100. And also the preparation time at JLCBCB is always the shortest.
About Ukrainian manufacturers of printed circuit boards, I generally keep quiet, here the price is 5-6 times higher and the quality is 10 times lower, and the production time is not guaranteed, as it is not regrettable, but it is a fact!
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« Reply #13 on: May 27, 2021, 09:20:08 09:20 »

What is the lead time to Europe  for JLCPCB/PCBWAY?
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« Reply #14 on: May 27, 2021, 09:47:52 09:47 »

I placed my first order with jlcpcb on the 15th May, boards made on 22nd, shipped on 24th.
I expect to get them in the UK next week. so 3weeks from start to finish.

So far very impressed, 10 boards (70x45mm) for $20 total

I could have paid extra for dhl etc, but 20 days is fine for me
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« Reply #15 on: May 27, 2021, 10:22:07 10:22 »

What is the lead time to Europe  for JLCPCB/PCBWAY?
DHL up to 6 days. Fedex - up to 14 days.
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« Reply #16 on: May 27, 2021, 03:14:23 15:14 »

About Ukrainian manufacturers of printed circuit boards, I generally keep quiet, here the price is 5-6 times higher and the quality is 10 times lower, and the production time is not guaranteed, as it is not regrettable, but it is a fact!

nearly the same everywhere..
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« Reply #17 on: May 27, 2021, 08:14:45 20:14 »

What is the lead time to Europe  for JLCPCB/PCBWAY?
My order from JLCPCB took only 10 days, i ordered 11-05 i received the package on 21-05 in  Netherland. The package vas send with Fedex, that was the cheapest option for my package, 16 euro.
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« Reply #18 on: May 27, 2021, 08:35:06 20:35 »

I use shop n ship, it is much cheaper in my case.
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« Reply #19 on: May 29, 2021, 12:46:20 00:46 »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8FVaMbBCmJ4&t=946s
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« Reply #20 on: May 29, 2021, 09:55:23 09:55 »

JLC is great for simple prototyping, espacially if you can stick to their basic components. But also for extended components it was quite limited. If they did not have stock, you never know when or if they will restock. So it happened many times that during design there was stock, but later on final order day there was no stock... Also in the past they did not really have SMT connectors. Now since few month they also offer assambly for many popular SMT conncetors and even THD assembly.
Also they promoted that they soon will be accepting parts from 3rd paty suppliers like LCSC and even DIGI-Key, Mouser, etc... so you do not need to relay on their own stock only for productions.
This, and also the announcement that they soon will be offering double-sided SMTA will make them even more attractive... Others like PCBWAY will have a lot of preassure if their "unique features" also will be available with JLC...
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« Reply #21 on: May 29, 2021, 10:00:17 10:00 »

Confirm that there are problems with JLCPCB Sets of. We often had to make changes, that the position is available, then it is not.
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« Reply #22 on: May 29, 2021, 09:14:57 21:14 »

By the way, for comparing / finding parts for JLC PCB assembly I came across and frequently use this great project. It is very easy to find JLC stock-parts and filter by basic/extended and check their parameter and prices:

https://yaqwsx.github.io/jlcparts/#/

For sure will be usefull for some of you, too
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« Reply #23 on: May 30, 2021, 12:03:37 00:03 »

Confirm that there are problems with JLCPCB Sets of. We often had to make changes, that the position is available, then it is not.

I agree. JLC is better in my eyes too. However, I also had this bad experience to design a project, use for i.e. a microchip MCU (available at the time in their stock). The problem is that they seems to never restock the chips from microchip anymore since then.
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« Reply #24 on: May 30, 2021, 03:55:14 03:55 »

I spoke with JLCPCB about "what to do if a component is needed which is not in stock". In the beginning, they generally "sent" you about this. Now they can meet your wishes if the quantity is in the size of 1-2 standard packs of components. But if you need 10-20 pcs for a prototype, then this is unrealistic.
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