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« on: March 21, 2020, 04:39:03 16:39 »

Hello Everyone,

In the wake of Corona Virus epidemic engulfing entire world, let's follow the Medical Advisers/Scientists diligently.
Keep yourself and your loved ones safe, keep your fellow citizens safe and together we will see this through..

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« Reply #1 on: March 23, 2020, 10:53:20 10:53 »

Protect yourself to protect we all !

Do not follow people stupidity !

take care,

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« Reply #2 on: March 23, 2020, 01:24:24 13:24 »

Please, stay at home.
Here, in Italy, it seems to be at war.
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« Reply #3 on: March 28, 2020, 04:05:36 16:05 »

It seems around my place, things are going better than expected. Most people are staying home, so the contamination curve is flattening.
But - like any other part of the world - there are some "It-won't-happen-to-me" stupids spreading the virus.

Stay at home. If you need something from outside, ask for your mother-in-law: That's what mothers-in-law are for. (Just kiddin!).

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« Reply #4 on: March 28, 2020, 04:52:34 16:52 »

Stay at home. If you need something from outside, ask for your mother-in-law: That's what mothers-in-law are for. (Just kiddin!).

my mother in law wants me out Cheesy
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« Reply #5 on: April 07, 2020, 08:14:22 20:14 »

Quarantine here in Argentina will slowly start to be lifted after April 13. The curve seems to be flattening with less than 50 deceased so far.

It's funny to see all the false information and conspiracy theories regarding the origins of the virus, the funniest being the 5G theory viralised by Dr. Thomas Cowen which inspired some crazy people in UK to set 5G towers on fire  Shocked

https://www.theverge.com/2020/4/4/21207927/5g-towers-burning-uk-coronavirus-conspiracy-theory-link

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« Reply #6 on: April 07, 2020, 08:50:12 20:50 »

I still don't get it: what is actually the need and hurry for 5G anyway?
I find 4G enough for most use cases and given that the EM pollution is already high in the big cities (where 5G is targeted due of limited range) and since there is a correlation between general health and the level of EM radiation, it's kind of criminal to raise it further.

I'm not saying that I believe the conspiracy nuts yet it looks weird even if you don't look very closely to the issue.
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« Reply #7 on: April 07, 2020, 09:12:26 21:12 »

Hurry = Money
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« Reply #8 on: April 07, 2020, 09:39:30 21:39 »

Hurry = Money
True (dirty money) yet there should be first a demand which 5G was supposed to fill. Why is 5G needed? I will appreciate if someone can tell me the reason (besides 4k porn streaming Smiley )
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« Reply #9 on: April 07, 2020, 10:04:26 22:04 »

True (dirty money) yet there should be first a demand which 5G was supposed to fill. Why is 5G needed? I will appreciate if someone can tell me the reason (besides 4k porn streaming Smiley )

Improved speed, latency and coverage. All the reasons that make phone calls and data transfers better. 4k porn reserved for screens that support 4k. :-)


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« Reply #10 on: April 07, 2020, 11:27:17 23:27 »

Improved speed, latency and coverage. All the reasons that make phone calls and data transfers better. 4k porn reserved for screens that support 4k. :-)

I doubt that anybody will see a difference against 4G (if the 4G network is well designed), most traffic is made by web browsing, messaging, and YouTube (video streaming). Since a phone is the most used mobile device (even tablets are no so used anymore, market is shrinking for those devices) you will need magnifiers to really see the difference even for video streaming.

As for coverage, we are talking about cities that already have good coverage. I see no reason to hurry this development since it will bring "improvements" only for mobile devices. Otherwise the old and proven physical cable (fiber optics) rules.
So, knowing the damage that RF radiation can do to human body (after all we are an electromagnetic system, neurons and all) I find this development no less than criminal unless a real valid reason is given.
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« Reply #11 on: April 08, 2020, 02:27:52 02:27 »

I have 1 recommend always wear face mask at least fabric mask, i my country (Thailand) start to reduce the infect people after keep people distance and ware mask.
Stay safe
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« Reply #12 on: April 08, 2020, 11:08:51 23:08 »

I cannot belive someone can trust that conspiracy theories about 5G.

Protect yourself and your beloved ones, specially older ones.
Stay Safe, Stay at Home.
Together we can beat that Corona Virus.

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« Reply #13 on: April 09, 2020, 05:18:13 05:18 »

Washing Hands with soap is a first line of defense against germs and viruses.
https://www.cdc.gov/handwashing/why-handwashing.html
https://www.who.int/gpsc/clean_hands_protection/en/
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« Reply #14 on: April 09, 2020, 11:36:50 11:36 »

Wash....not just hands please....

 Cheesy  Cheesy  Cheesy  Cheesy  Cheesy  Cheesy  Cheesy  Cheesy  Tongue

Also follow strongly suggested protocols !!!!

Hope all is over ASAP !

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« Reply #15 on: April 09, 2020, 09:58:04 21:58 »

For sure, wearing a mask to protect others is better than nothing, it gives people hope and the belief they are doing something yet this study shows some interesting facts:
https://annals.org/aim/fullarticle/2764367/effectiveness-surgical-cotton-masks-blocking-sars-cov-2-controlled-comparison

In conclusion, if someone sick coughs, whether he's wearing face mask or not, is bad for those nearby. Especially if those nearby have a somewhat weaker state of health, diminished immunity.

As an advice, I find it highly effective to make a gargle using lukewarm water in which I dissolve some table salt (to saturation) and lemon juice (if you have citric acid all the better but don't exaggerate with the quantity). The first infected tissue is the one in the throat and this gargle will act on site. Of course some will object that using alcohol (aka vodka) with a concentration over 60% is better, but I guess that those will rather drink it than spitting it out Smiley
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« Reply #16 on: April 10, 2020, 09:40:01 09:40 »

I have 1 recommend always wear face mask at least fabric mask, i my country (Thailand) start to reduce the infect people after keep people distance and ware mask.
Stay safe
In my country the goverment has not recommended using face masks at all for the general population. A face mask is more protecting others from you, and not the other way. I live in Norway and we do not have a dence population. When moving around outdoor I do not see many people. So I have not bother to get any kind of mask. Washing my hands and keeping them out of my face (easier said than done) is enough. However if you live in a very dense population I can see some use of using a face mask when moving outdoor   
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« Reply #17 on: April 22, 2020, 02:21:47 02:21 »

Not sure if this is a good place to post this, but thought I would mention.  Two of my friends and I came down with flu like illness over the past month.  Though none of us were able to get rt-pcr testing to confirm, symptoms (particularly chest discomfort/tightness) suggested viral pneumonia, possibly COVID-19.  We all took nitazoxanide and azithromycin (500 mg BID) and symptoms resolved very rapidly.  For myself, I was surprised that I was about 90% symptom free within 24 hours, but continued the meds for 5 days though was symptom free after 3 days.  One friend had a more severe case with very sudden onset.  He started to have symptoms mid afternoon and was feverish by late evening.  He woke up at 2am that night and was feeling worse and more feverish so took an extra dose (turning it into 500 mg QID for 2-3 days before going back to BID) and was feeling substantially better by morning.   His symptoms started Friday afternoon and had resolved by Tuesday morning except for a bit of residual fatigue/weakness. 
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« Reply #18 on: April 22, 2020, 03:42:38 03:42 »

I still don't get it: what is actually the need and hurry for 5G anyway?
I find 4G enough for most use cases and given that the EM pollution is already high in the big cities (where 5G is targeted due of limited range) and since there is a correlation between general health and the level of EM radiation, it's kind of criminal to raise it further.

In regards to electrosmog (RF noise pollution), I found this device to be helpful:

https://www.amazon.com/Advanced-GQ-Multi-Field-Electromagnetic-Radiation/dp/B07JGJ897T/

I used it to check field strength and was surprised how high the field strength was at some locations.  Out of an abundance of caution, I re-positioned some devices in my home including a couple wifi access points away from places where I spend a lot of time.  Likewise, not having your bed positioned near wiring that carries high currents (like for an air conditioner or heating appliance) may be a good idea as there were substantial magnetic fields around that wiring when it carried large currents. 

I also measured large differences between rural locations (like in the mountains) compared to suburbia and high density urban (like San Francisco).  I was surprised by the very high RF field strength in a friend's house in San Francisco.  It turned out a cell site had been built on top of a roof (of a small store front private school) about 400' away.  I imagine 5G infrastructure will greatly increase RF field strength in many areas since the base stations will be much denser and built closer to homes. 



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« Reply #19 on: May 11, 2020, 06:05:53 06:05 »

Not sure if this is a good place to post this, but thought I would mention.  Two of my friends and I came down with flu like illness over the past month.  Though none of us were able to get rt-pcr testing to confirm, symptoms (particularly chest discomfort/tightness) suggested viral pneumonia, possibly COVID-19.  We all took nitazoxanide and azithromycin (500 mg BID) and symptoms resolved very rapidly.  For myself, I was surprised that I was about 90% symptom free within 24 hours, but continued the meds for 5 days though was symptom free after 3 days.  One friend had a more severe case with very sudden onset.  He started to have symptoms mid afternoon and was feverish by late evening.  He woke up at 2am that night and was feeling worse and more feverish so took an extra dose (turning it into 500 mg QID for 2-3 days before going back to BID) and was feeling substantially better by morning.   His symptoms started Friday afternoon and had resolved by Tuesday morning except for a bit of residual fatigue/weakness. 

Thank for sharing your story. Glad you are recovered.
It's no safe to go outside at this time but I have to come to work 5 days per week. I wish I can work from home like others but I can't. Hope the vaccine come out soon to stop the virus.
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« Reply #20 on: May 11, 2020, 08:07:12 08:07 »

True (dirty money) yet there should be first a demand which 5G was supposed to fill. Why is 5G needed? I will appreciate if someone can tell me the reason (besides 4k porn streaming Smiley )
I think, the only reason they hurry is because they are trying to be the first in the market. "The early birds gets the Worm."
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« Reply #21 on: May 11, 2020, 09:20:23 21:20 »

In regards to electrosmog (RF noise pollution), I found this device to be helpful:

https://www.amazon.com/Advanced-GQ-Multi-Field-Electromagnetic-Radiation/dp/B07JGJ897T/

I used it to check field strength and was surprised how high the field strength was at some locations.  Out of an abundance of caution, I re-positioned some devices in my home including a couple wifi access points away from places where I spend a lot of time.  Likewise, not having your bed positioned near wiring that carries high currents (like for an air conditioner or heating appliance) may be a good idea as there were substantial magnetic fields around that wiring when it carried large currents.  

I also measured large differences between rural locations (like in the mountains) compared to suburbia and high density urban (like San Francisco).  I was surprised by the very high RF field strength in a friend's house in San Francisco.  It turned out a cell site had been built on top of a roof (of a small store front private school) about 400' away.  I imagine 5G infrastructure will greatly increase RF field strength in many areas since the base stations will be much denser and built closer to homes.  





Glad you recovered! Even though you felt like it was being extra cautious, re positioning your devices or being near wires that carry current have NOTHING to do with it.  Vaccines & medical treatments that are based on science are the only relevant thing.  A lot of  pseudo-science non-sense going around..
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« Reply #22 on: May 12, 2020, 07:01:33 07:01 »

Not sure if this is a good place to post this, but thought I would mention.  Two of my friends and I came down with flu like illness over the past month.  Though none of us were able to get rt-pcr testing to confirm, symptoms (particularly chest discomfort/tightness) suggested viral pneumonia, possibly COVID-19.  We all took nitazoxanide and azithromycin (500 mg BID) and symptoms resolved very rapidly.  For myself, I was surprised that I was about 90% symptom free within 24 hours, but continued the meds for 5 days though was symptom free after 3 days.  One friend had a more severe case with very sudden onset.  He started to have symptoms mid afternoon and was feverish by late evening.  He woke up at 2am that night and was feeling worse and more feverish so took an extra dose (turning it into 500 mg QID for 2-3 days before going back to BID) and was feeling substantially better by morning.   His symptoms started Friday afternoon and had resolved by Tuesday morning except for a bit of residual fatigue/weakness.  

Glad you are recovered. The whole world is working on this damn virus. I hope it is found as soon as possible.

How many years have the virus vaccines been found?

Rabies - 4 years, 1881-1885
Rubella - 7 years, 1962-1969
Pertussis - 8 years, 1906-1914
Measles - 9 years, 1954-1963
Flu - 14 years, 1931-1945
Japonencephalitis - 20 years, 1934-1954
Polio - 20 years, 1935-1955
Tuberculosis - 21 years, 1900-1921
Mumps - 22 years, 1945-1967
Human papilloma virus - 23 years, 1983-2006
Hepatitis A - 24 years, 1967-1991
Rotavirus - 26 years, 1980-2006
Smallpox - 26 years, 1770-1796
Yellow fever - 27 years, 1912-1939
Cholera - 30 years, 1854-1884
Chickenpox disease - 34 years, 1954-1988
Hepatitis B - 38 years, 1943-1981
Tick-borne encephalitis - 39 years, 1937-1976
Diphtheria - 40 years, 1883-1923
Tetanos - 40 years, 1884-1924
Hemophilus influenza - 44 years, 1933-1977
Typhoid - 58 years, 1838-1896
Pneumococcus - 66 years, 1911-1977
Meningitis - 68 years, 1906-1974
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« Reply #23 on: May 14, 2020, 03:03:08 03:03 »

Glad you recovered! Even though you felt like it was being extra cautious, re positioning your devices or being near wires that carry current have NOTHING to do with it.  Vaccines & medical treatments that are based on science are the only relevant thing.  A lot of  pseudo-science non-sense going around..


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Glad you recovered! Even though you felt like it was being extra cautious, re positioning your devices or being near wires that carry current have NOTHING to do with it.  Vaccines & medical treatments that are based on science are the only relevant thing.  A lot of  pseudo-science non-sense going around..


I wasn't suggesting the electrosmog issue was related to the virus...
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« Reply #24 on: May 14, 2020, 05:45:06 17:45 »

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I wasn't suggesting the electrosmog issue was related to the virus...

Ok, great.. for a minute there it seemed like you thought the electrosmog was something to try and avoid. So nitazoxanide and azithromycin worked well it seems. Thats great info for the rest of us who are waiting for the inevitable to happen.
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