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« on: August 20, 2014, 03:00:22 15:00 »

Hi friends

Any idea about fuelless electricity generator, working project or any experience?

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« Reply #1 on: August 20, 2014, 03:34:54 15:34 »

Eolic generator.
hydroelectric generator.
dynamo hand-operated.
Geotermic generator.
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« Reply #2 on: August 20, 2014, 05:48:48 17:48 »

Interesting question, and it is a lot of energy nuts on the net. Seeking the holy grail of overunity and free energy Lips sealed. Not saying by any means that you belong to that crowd. But for your own sake do not even think about going down that path. You can not create energy from nothing, or use some amount of energy create more energy
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« Reply #3 on: August 20, 2014, 05:57:51 17:57 »

I can add the Stirling Engine. It can use any source of heat or cold. It was invented long time ago, coming from 1800s, but is still actual.

There is a small toy example here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nIfcxuxqbkI

And 3kW solar Stirling electrical generator with 24% conversion efficiency:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rzhzeA4VRSc

some other examples:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nq6iCO9KLKA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W4VRb4vllB4
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« Reply #4 on: August 20, 2014, 07:43:47 19:43 »

But for your own sake do not even think about going down that path. You can not create energy from nothing, or use some amount of energy create more energy

Yep, it totally amazes me that in this day and age, there are still so many people that fail to accept the VERY WELL ESTABLISHED  Conservation Law...  They call it a LAW for a reason...
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« Reply #5 on: August 21, 2014, 12:36:38 00:36 »

Another one, strange that it is not mentioned.

Photo Voltaic generator...  solar cells.
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« Reply #6 on: November 21, 2014, 02:44:48 14:44 »

There are two interesting experiments to explore from the devices of Thane C. Heins

a)  Bi Toroid Transformer experiment of Thane C. Heins (Canadian)

       https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x7JDElxCyX4

     MIT Dr Zahn Bi Toroid Transformer Tutorial

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IdL5EFkfxBQ&list=TLCaoN495ljJA


   
b)  Regenerative Acceleration Generator Innovation - Confirming the Negative Lenz Effect  (or Delayed Lenz Effect)

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VSCIws7zppU&list=TLfL1RT88b0_Q


Successful replication by Jean-Louis Naudin (French)

http://jnaudin.free.fr/dlenz/heinseffecten.htm
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« Reply #7 on: November 22, 2014, 02:52:44 02:52 »

Interesting.
It seems it could be used to reduce drag of generator hence raising the efficiency.
But definitely not fuelless.
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« Reply #8 on: November 22, 2014, 10:54:58 22:54 »

Antoine Lavoisier. "Traité Élémentaire de Chimie": "Rien ne se perd, rien ne se crée, tout se transforme." ("Nothing is lost, nothing is created, everything is transformed.").
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antoine_Lavoisier
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« Reply #9 on: January 02, 2015, 03:27:13 15:27 »

At Cragside , the amazingly advanced historic home of Lord Armstrong they have built an Archimedian screw that works in reverse to generate power to pump water to the various attractions. Quite Novel.

There is a photo on the National Trust website ,Cragside pages under "Things to see and do".

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« Reply #10 on: January 03, 2015, 01:53:53 01:53 »

The OP gave no hints on required power.

For (very) low power, like for sensors, Piezoelectric is interesting. Google for "energy harvesting".

There was some university that did an interesting project, harnessing power from RF (TV & radio station broadcasts). Again very low power (microwatts) but enough for their wireless sensor.
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« Reply #11 on: January 03, 2015, 03:13:01 03:13 »

The OP gave no hints on required power.

Doesn't really matter, as there is no such thing as fuel less energy...  Even when you harvest from a 'monetary' free source like light, wind, water, geothermal,  RF or what not you are using those sources as the fuel...
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« Reply #12 on: January 11, 2015, 05:47:36 05:47 »

According to the dictionary, and our august friend CocaCola, fuel is anything that produces energy, power, or heat.

Therefore, energy, power, or heat, cannot be a fuel because they are products.

"Fuel-less", therefore, implies a harvester, and harvesters derive energy, power or heat, at no energy, power, or heat, cost (it's already been paid for elsewhere).
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« Reply #13 on: January 12, 2015, 02:47:14 02:47 »

Yep, it totally amazes me that in this day and age, there are still so many people that fail to accept the VERY WELL ESTABLISHED  Conservation Law...  They call it a LAW for a reason...

There was even one at CES this year.  Totally blew me away that people are still pulling this crap.
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