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« on: December 30, 2013, 08:03:52 20:03 »

I just want to point out how PATHETIC it is that there were only 4 thank yous and 78 D/L's in the Coppercam thread since August.

Someone took the time to contribute while most of you lurk in the background, leeching, not even thanking someone for their trouble - especially if it is useful or added to a collection.

It'd be nice if there was a way for the Sonsivri board to tally access to attached links and if a member crosses over a threshold of, say, 2:1 of access to thank yous (realizing some things like mirrors are not a major effort in some people's minds, while others do appreciate it. others may wish not to reveal themselves for a particular D/L. some treat thank yous as major contribution, awesome, just what I needed, and don't thank other posters...that may be OK as well. some attachments are not links), they get a month of D/L vacation from the board. Three strikes,you're out. Maybe change that ratio threshold based on number of postings made.

Noting the number of attachment clicks under avatars would also be great to see what kind of member the person is.

In my mind, even if you don't contribute much, at least you could thank the people who do.

If that can't happen, then how about placing the ID of the downloader onto the posting, with a separate thanks place above it.

thanks by:
downloaded by:

I like the ratio system better, myself.
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« Reply #1 on: December 30, 2013, 08:56:35 20:56 »

Are there plugins to handle this kind of thing or would a custom plugin be needed?
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« Reply #2 on: December 30, 2013, 11:27:46 23:27 »

Solutions:

For once, I am in complete agreement with you. What about an automatic "thank you" if you open the link? I freely admit, there have been times I was in a hurry and didn't go back to click the "thank you" button, or what the person posted was garbage and didn't warrant a "thank you," but I have posted links to books on an account I paid for, had the book d/l'ed over a hundred times and received less that ten "thank you's." That is garbage.

Or: Under an avatar, or on a separate page it shows your last 10 downloads with an asterisk if you pressed the button. I guess it's like the rest of society: you've got 10 or 15 percent supporting the 85 or 90 percent that contribute nothing.
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« Reply #3 on: December 30, 2013, 11:31:42 23:31 »

Yeah, but this society can kick you off the island  Tongue
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« Reply #4 on: December 31, 2013, 12:21:48 00:21 »

Figured what the heck didn't need the file but went and clicked thanks and downloaded it for the archives Smiley
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« Reply #5 on: December 31, 2013, 10:08:18 10:08 »

Solutuions as long as you do not need "thank you" hits as nourishment. Take it as a honour that 78 have found your link worth looking at instead. Then I use a link here. I always try to give a "thank you" Besides saying thank you to the person for sharing. It is also a "Sideshow Bob was here" label. Remindig me that I have looked at this share before. I do not always remember which Ebooks I have downloaded as one example. That said I agree that the rule of thumb is. If you find a post useful use the thank you button
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« Reply #6 on: December 31, 2013, 06:28:47 18:28 »

We all know going in that most people do not bother with "thanks." This says a lot about the people who value your advice(post) or software sharing but can't be bothered with a courtesy. And to share/post anyway to help somebody, says a lot about you.

Wishing everybody (leeches included) happy New Year, happy hunting for 2014!


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« Reply #7 on: December 31, 2013, 07:01:34 19:01 »

Well said Optikon.

Personally I couldn't careless whether people push the "thank you " button.  I help people because I can.  I certainly don't keep score .  I have spent a life time helping those "around" me ,more often than not , putting the needs of others far ahead of my own and typically at significant cost in time or money or both .  It's my way of giving the finger to a society that coddles, supports, nurtures, and rewards extreme narcissism.
How ironic that the more "connected" and "social" society becomes, the more self centered and narcissistic it behaves.  Not saying thank you is merely a symptom of the disease, what is required is a fundamental shift in peoples thinking about those around them.

Having said that, I'd like to wish everyone a Happy New year and continued success in the coming year.

Cheers

   
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« Reply #8 on: December 31, 2013, 10:29:59 22:29 »

You are missing the point. There is no score keeping, what I am suggesting another tier for culling the parasites.

These people do not contribute ANYTHING. They anonymously leech, never contribute, yet pull down valuable material, no doubt some for their own sites and commercial exploits, without so much as a thank you.
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« Reply #9 on: December 31, 2013, 10:57:20 22:57 »

I mute All Zero Posters under the rule, section A, rule 8, This covers not being active.
My mutes are now, 32 days, (mutes for 1day to 7 days don't work, as a deterrent)
this increases if member still does not start posting.
Don't feel sorry for those on a mute.. you will not miss them, how can you miss someone that has not been seen here.

There is no valid reason for not posting, posting shite will get you a warning, true
but being an active member may save you from a long mute.
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« Reply #10 on: December 31, 2013, 11:00:56 23:00 »

No one, as far as I know, is keeping score. If someone posts a link to something I've been looking for or provides assistance or insight into a problem, I should at least have the courtesy to acknowledge their effort. If you've been on here a while and not been able to contribute links, information, advice or monetary support perhaps your contributions would be more valuable somewhere else.
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« Reply #11 on: January 01, 2014, 12:48:15 00:48 »

There is no valid reason for not posting

Out of curiosity, what happens during periods when somebody doesn't have access to internet? Is there any way to "park" account?
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« Reply #12 on: January 01, 2014, 04:29:04 04:29 »

Privacy is becoming a product more and more these days. There may be a reason that people don't want others to know if they download something. Pushing thank-you button is sensible and no trouble at all. It's just that it leaves a trace for all to see. Just some thought.
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« Reply #13 on: January 01, 2014, 05:53:46 05:53 »

Out of curiosity, what happens during periods when somebody doesn't have access to internet? Is there any way to "park" account?
Like for example.. someone who has had an account since say 2010 and last visit yesterday, with 200plus hours on line ... with zero posts.... we do have a system log.
so I still say we don't just mute, delete accounts without a valid reason.

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Privacy is becoming a product more and more these days. There may be a reason that people don't want others to know if they download something. Pushing thank-you button is sensible and no trouble at all. It's just that it leaves a trace for all to see. Just some thought.
I think there are two questions in this topic, The one I take a greater interest in is leeching.

Surely you don't use a traceable account while downloading software.
At my place of work, it's intresting to be asked, by pepole from other departments or outside contacts, "do you need an invite to sonsivri" some are very eager to push the fact they are members here.

plus I just drank my self sober.
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« Reply #14 on: January 01, 2014, 10:35:44 10:35 »

Now you have me curious, and this could be useful to all of us at some point.

How do you mute selected coworkers?   Tongue
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« Reply #15 on: January 01, 2014, 12:44:00 12:44 »

Now you have me curious, and this could be useful to all of us at some point.

How do you mute selected coworkers?   Tongue
Easy, co-workers don't need to know,  Shocked I have been known to mute fellow mods. Tongue
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« Reply #16 on: January 01, 2014, 02:42:56 14:42 »

I have been known to mute fellow mods. Tongue

I can confirm that statement is true   Tongue
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« Reply #17 on: January 01, 2014, 02:44:31 14:44 »

all animals are equal, but some are more equal than others  Tongue
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« Reply #18 on: January 01, 2014, 10:11:30 22:11 »

Well, it shouldn't be too hard to mute colleagues. If you're willing to risk prison time.  Cheesy
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« Reply #19 on: January 02, 2014, 04:27:24 16:27 »

By sorting the members by post count you will find almost all of page 28 muted except VIP's and most of them deserved it too
on average the entire page hasn't posted in anywhere from 4 years up to 7 years  and that is only 1 page they get worse from that point on
they won't get a chance too now   Cry

On a side note -- I see more GUESTS than usual today  Wink
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« Reply #20 on: January 02, 2014, 05:32:17 17:32 »

Hi
I have been leeching on this forum for years. I occasionally give a donation when I can. I only contribute something when I feel that I know what I say will help. I dont see the point of posting just so that I have posted, that helps no one. I am sorry that I am not more knowlegable and able to help more.
Thank you all for all your work.
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« Reply #21 on: January 02, 2014, 05:40:49 17:40 »

Hi
I have been leeching on this forum for years. I occasionally give a donation when I can. I only contribute something when I feel that I know what I say will help. I dont see the point of posting just so that I have posted, that helps no one. I am sorry that I am not more knowlegable and able to help more.
Thank you all for all your work.
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with 40 plus posts, your not even in the list of users, I monitor, this is without v.i.p status.
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« Reply #22 on: January 02, 2014, 06:05:57 18:05 »

We hear the same excuse's all the time

I'am a beginner and don't want to look stupid to everyone
If your a beginner than you must have 1000's of questions so post them- you have to start somewhere

You fall somewhere in the middle of the field and don't want to look stupid to the experts here
They are the only one's who can help you - but you need to ask ,also you have enough knowledge now to help the beginners so post

Your an Expert (or so you think  Tongue) I don't want to look stupid to my peers
Nobody knows everything - not even the experts - if nothing else it makes for a good pissing contest till we step in  Grin so post

You have language problem
Bullshit - you found this place and all the files you were looking for so give back before we find you

So enough of the excuse's & bullshit on why you can't or won't post, there are no valid reason's not to
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« Reply #23 on: January 02, 2014, 09:27:01 21:27 »

WOW, bbarney, did you eat your medication?
Some blood boiling there, careful or you may get an aneurysm Tongue
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« Reply #24 on: January 02, 2014, 09:43:30 21:43 »

Just telling it like it is , with no excuse's  Grin
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« Reply #25 on: January 02, 2014, 10:10:50 22:10 »

WOW, bbarney, did you eat your medication?
Some blood boiling there, careful or you may get an aneurysm Tongue
I was going to mute the bugger, taking on my job, of muting the zero posters.
for excuse, he sold his meds, to supplement his pension..
I told him it, cheaper to use booze.
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« Reply #26 on: January 02, 2014, 10:47:01 22:47 »

I didn't catch the part about selling the meds to buy booze, I thought you said wash them down with booze
Guess you shouldn't take both  Tongue
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« Reply #27 on: January 03, 2014, 10:52:09 22:52 »

There are meds and booze?
I want some!!
Fuk the leechers..
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« Reply #28 on: January 04, 2014, 02:10:54 14:10 »

There are meds and booze?
I want some!!
Fuk the leechers..
The meds and booze are only for us over-worked underpaid Mods
and yes after all the meds and booze we do Fuk the leechers..   Cheesy
JUST KIDDING  Tongue  never muted anyone under the influence
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« Reply #29 on: January 04, 2014, 04:45:43 16:45 »

JUST KIDDING  Tongue  never muted anyone under the influence
I must have, They sure act like they are under something! at times... be it booze, drugs.
Does that mean we have to issue them a sobriety test, before we mute them?.
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« Reply #30 on: January 04, 2014, 10:40:37 22:40 »

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I was talking about myself  Tongue

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JUST KIDDING  Tongue  never muted anyone under the influence

But I' am sure I have muted lots of them who were drunk or stoned ,I've just never dished it out when I was in that condition  Grin
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« Reply #31 on: January 05, 2014, 12:51:53 12:51 »

in the olden days, leeches were administered to patients by doctors to make them better.

so maybe there's some goodness in people like me  Cheesy

I never never never post cracks or links to hooky stuff.

The NSA and GCHQ know who your are !!!!

I remember a few years ago when the internet was anonymous ( not the hacker organisation by the way ), and many many good guys wanted to keep it that way.

Then Big Brother exercised his power.

did you watch the blessed Edward Snowden Xmas day message on channel4 in the UK.

what courage for a 30 year old, I wish he was a son of mine.

God bless that man, I sincerely hope he gets a Nobel prize.
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« Reply #32 on: January 05, 2014, 05:40:48 17:40 »

I would not have wanted to be a patient then or now.
I think we need a new name foe the so called leeches,
so how about, we just call them Scumbaggers  Roll Eyes
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« Reply #33 on: January 05, 2014, 10:50:12 22:50 »

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in the olden days, leeches were administered to patients by doctors to make them better.

Still used by models and actors to remove bruises before a photo or filming shoot...
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« Reply #34 on: January 06, 2014, 07:42:39 07:42 »

...and for treating rugby players' cauliflower ears and for some serious surgery, like reattaching severed limbs!

Now there are medical maggots as well.

So yeah, stop insulting all these useful little critters!
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« Reply #35 on: February 09, 2014, 10:43:20 22:43 »

In the Arm Forum I posted a zip file for a development board
thanked 4 times downloaded 106 times

I also posted a library for a pcb program.
thanked 3 times ,downloaded over 400 times till it was reported and deleted.

And they were only posted here ..Obviously those links were taken elsewhere.

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« Reply #36 on: February 10, 2014, 08:58:55 08:58 »

Obviously those links were taken elsewhere.

Nearly every file posted here is mirrored somewhere if you dig deep enough...  Before I was a member here and had access to the download links, I used to visit some Chinese site for downloads (don't ask the name/url because I have no clue anymore, it was years ago and long lost) anyway that Chinese site would mirror pretty much all the files and links from here (and other electronics forums) complete with the same passwords, they didn't even bother re-uploading or trying to hide the fact they were lifting the files from others...

It's all part of the game I suppose...

But, it's still sad that our own members can't take the time to click the thank you link when they get something they like, be it information or a file...
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« Reply #37 on: February 17, 2014, 05:07:07 17:07 »

i think this is what we need, i have see this in some other platforms..

Thank You Mod (V1.2.3)..

honestly i hated the first time i went in to this in some other forums but now i understand the advantages of using this method...

why do i hated?, it does depend of the content and how well the person explain what its included, some people just post a useless information and want to get thanks and increase their rank in to the forum, etc, we need to be careful of how the people (we) post and how good documented is what its hidden/attached...

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« Reply #38 on: April 13, 2014, 06:39:26 06:39 »

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We already have that MOD. I just didn't enable it. Because thank you shouldn't be for trade. It's a manner. If person didn't wanted to thank you in first place, does it matter to you to have it?

As you say people will begin posting crap to gain thank you. Content should be well documented. If not, crisis will arise.
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